dennis is a dear friend. i think he is a very strong leader, strong personality, and if he is actually given that responsibility by the president, it will be a big change for him. there will be other shoes to fill, but, again, we'll still see some people who have to fill those new white house positions that open up, but i think you've maybe lost the team of rivals, but what you have not lost is strong personalities with strong views. chuck hagel, john brennan, senator kerry sitting around that table. you are going to have people with very, very deep expertise. none of them are shrinking violets, and i think that will serve the president well. >> that's elizabeth hagel coming in now, the hagel family. hagel, of course, of nebraska. we have a two-minute warning. that should mean that the president is about to come in. senator hagel, very close to senator obama when they were both senators. chris alissa, and traveled with him and jack reid to the middle east, iraq, and afghanistan when he was only the candidate